The interpretation timeline

John 15:8

How this passage has been read — the sources, oldest to newest.

From the early Church Fathers to now.

6 Patristic witnesses · 1 Medieval witness · 1 Orthodox witness

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Patristic before A.D. 750
John Chrysostom · A.D. 347–407 A.D. 407
“(Hom. lxxvi. 2) Our Lord shewed above, that those who plotted against them should be burned, inasmuch as they abode not in Christ: now He shews that they themselves would be invincible, bringing forth much fruit; Herein is My Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit: as if He said, If it appertains to My Father’s glory that ye bring forth fruit, He will not despise His own glory. And he that bringeth forth fruit is Christ’s disciple: So shall ye be My disciples.”
Catena Aurea: Gospel of John, as excerpted in the Catena Aurea on John 15:8-11 PD · J. H. Newman (Oxford, 1845) ↗
John Chrysostom · A.D. 347–407 A.D. 407
“(Hom. lxxvi. 2) If then I love you, be of good cheer; if it is the Father’s glory that ye bring forth good fruit, bear no evil. Then to rouse them to exertion, He adds, Continue ye in My love; and then shews how this is to be done: If ye keep My commandments, ye shall abide in My love.”
Catena Aurea: Gospel of John, as excerpted in the Catena Aurea on John 15:8-11 PD · J. H. Newman (Oxford, 1845) ↗
John Chrysostom · A.D. 347–407 A.D. 407
“(Hom. lxxvii. 1) Then because the Passion was now approaching to interrupt their joy, He adds, These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy may remain in you: as if He said, And if sorrow fall upon you, I will take it away; so that ye shall rejoice in the end.”
Catena Aurea: Gospel of John, as excerpted in the Catena Aurea on John 15:8-11 PD · J. H. Newman (Oxford, 1845) ↗
Augustine of Hippo · A.D. 354–430 A.D. 430
“(Tract. lxxxii. 1) Made bright or glorified; the Greek word may be translated in either way. Δόξα signifies glory; not our own glory, we must remember, as if we had it of ourselves: it is of His grace that we have it; and therefore it is not our own but His glory. For from whom shall we derive our fruitfulness, but from His mercy preventing us. Wherefore He adds, As My Father hath loved Me, even so love I you. This then is the source of our good works. Our good works proceed from faith which worketh by love: but we could not love unless we were loved first: As My Father hath loved Me, even so love I you. This does not prove that our nature is equal to His, as His is to the Father’s, but the grace, whereby He is the Mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. The Father loves us, but in Him.”
Catena Aurea: Gospel of John, as excerpted in the Catena Aurea on John 15:8-11 PD · J. H. Newman (Oxford, 1845) ↗
Augustine of Hippo · A.D. 354–430 A.D. 430
“(Tract. lxxxii. 3. et seq.) Who doubts that love precedes the observance of the commandments? For who loves not, has not that whereby to keep the commandments. These words then do not declare whence love arises, but how it is shewn, that no one might deceive himself into thinking that he loved our Lord, when he did not keep His commandments. Though the words, Continue ye in My love, do not of themselves make it evident which love He means, ours to Him, or His to us, yet the preceding words do: I love you, He says: and then immediately after, Continue ye in My love. Continue ye in My love, then, is, continue in My grace: and, If ye keep My commandments, ye shall abide in My love, is, Your keeping of My commandments, will be evidence to you that ye abide in My love. It is not that we keep His commandments first, and that then He loves; but that He loves us, and then we keep His commandments. This is that grace, which is revealed to the humble, but hidden from the proud. But what means the next words, Even as I have kept My Father’s commandments, and abide in His love: i. e. the Father’s love, wherewith He loveth the Son. Must this grace, wherewith the Father loves the Son, be understood to be like the grace wherewith the Son loveth us? No; for whereas we are sons not by nature, but by grace, the Only Begotten is Son not by grace, but by nature. We must understand this then to refer to the manhood in the Son, even as the words themselves imply: As My Father hath loved Me, even so love I you. The grace of a Mediator is expressed here; and Christ is Mediator between God and man, not as God, but as man. This then we may say, that since human nature does not pertain to the nature of God, but does by grace pertain to the Person of the Son, grace also pertains to that Person; such grace as has nothing superior, nothing equal to it. For no merits on man’s part preceded the assumption of that nature.”
Catena Aurea: Gospel of John, as excerpted in the Catena Aurea on John 15:8-11 PD · J. H. Newman (Oxford, 1845) ↗
Augustine of Hippo · A.D. 354–430 A.D. 430
“(Tract. lxxxiii. 1) And what is Christ’s joy in us, but that He deigns to rejoice on our account? And what is our joy, which He says shall be full, but to have fellowship with Him? He had perfect joy on our account, when He rejoiced in foreknowing, and predestinating us; but that joy was not in us, because then we did not exist: it began to be in us, when He called us And this joy we rightly call our own, this joy wherewith we shall be blessed; which is begun in the faith of them who are born again, and shall be fulfilled in the reward of them who rise again.”
Catena Aurea: Gospel of John, as excerpted in the Catena Aurea on John 15:8-11 PD · J. H. Newman (Oxford, 1845) ↗
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Medieval c. 750 – 1100
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Scholastic c. 1100 – 1500

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