Moreover we have had fathers of our flesh, for instructors, and we reverenced them: shall we not much more obey the Father of spirits, and live?

“"Furthermore, we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence." Again, he reasons from their own experiences, from what they themselves suffered. For as he says above, "Call to mind the former days," so here also "God" (he saith) "dealeth with you as with sons," and ye could not say, We cannot bear it: yea, "as with sons" tenderly beloved. For if they reverence their "fathers of the flesh," how shall not you reverence your heavenly Father? "Furthermore," he saith, "we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live?" ("To the Father of spirits," whether of spiritual gifts, or of prayers, or of the incorporeal powers.) If we die thus, then "we shall live. For they indeed for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure," for what seems so is not always profitable, but "He for our profit."”

“Above, the Apostle led us to bear evils patiently by the example of the ancient fathers and of Christ; here he admonishes to the same thing from the authority of Scripture. Hence concerning this he does three things. For first he sets forth the authority; second he shows its sense, at the place persevere in discipline; third he argues to his proposal from what has gone before, at the place but if you are without discipline. He sets forth the authority, which is found in Prov. III, 11; but under other words than our text has. For there we have it thus: My son, reject not the discipline of the Lord, nor faint when you are reproved by him. For whom the Lord loves he reproves, and, like a father, takes pleasure in a son. But because the Apostle introduces this authority for the sake of consolation, therefore he uses other words. Hence he says, and you have forgotten the consolation, as if to say: it is a wonder if you have forgotten. Ps. XCIII, 19: according to the multitude of my sorrows in my heart, thy comforts have given joy to my soul. The same: I will never forget thy justifications. But he says, of consolation, that is, of God consoling, and it is an emphatic expression. II Cor. I, v. 3 s.: blessed be God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all consolation, who comforts us in all our tribulation. There follows, which speaks to you, that is, the God of consolation, speaks to you as to sons. Therefore if he punishes, he does not hate: but his punishment is ordered to good, because he speaks to you as to sons. Then he sets forth the words of the author, saying, my son, etc. And he adds the reason, at the place for whom he loves, etc. But in the authority he forbids two things; for he forbids hatred of discipline, and impatience toward it. On account of the first he says, my son, do not neglect, as certain ones who hate discipline, of whom it is said, Prov. IX, 8: do not rebuke a scorner, lest he hate thee. Amos V, 10: they have hated him that speaks in the gate, and have abhorred him that rebukes perfectly. The Apostle therefore says, do not neglect the discipline of the Lord, as if to say: when God scourges you for the sake of discipline, do not neglect it, that is, do not hold it negligently by loathing it. Wis. III, 11: he who rejects wisdom and discipline is unhappy. On account of the second he says, and do not grow weary while you are reproved by him. For some, even if they do not hate harsh correction, nevertheless bear it impatiently, and therefore he says, neither be weary, etc. For then a man is spiritually wearied, when he is saddened to such an extent that he faints. Above, the same: that you be not wearied, fainting in your minds. Ecclus. VI, 26: do not grow weary in her bonds. Then, when he says, for whom the Lord loves he chastises, he assigns the reason. But as the Philosopher says, the term chastisement is commonly used of children and of concupiscence. For we call a man chaste whose concupiscence has been chastised. Likewise a boy is called chastised who is well disciplined. For what of itself has a proneness to evil needs something to restrain it. But such is concupiscence, and children, who of themselves follow their own impulses; therefore they need one who chastises. He therefore who chastises does this so that they may not tend toward evil. And because our senses and our thought are prone to evil, as is said in Gen. VIII, 21, therefore the Lord chastises us, that he may draw us back from evil. Ps. CXVII, 18: the Lord chastising has chastised me, and has not delivered me over to death. Ier. XXXI, 18: thou hast chastised me, and I have been instructed, like an untamed young steer. In this he chastises, because he scourges, not indeed unto condemnation, but unto salvation. Hence he says that he scourges every son whom he receives. And therefore, they who are not scourged are not of the number of sons. Ps. LXXII, 5: they are not in the labor of men, and shall not be scourged with men — whence this is a sign, as it were, of eternal reprobation. Ez. XVI, 42: my zeal shall be taken away from thee. Nor is it a wonder if he scourges every son whom he receives by adoption: because he did not spare his own Son. Lc., last chapter, v. 26: it behooved Christ to suffer. Consequently, when he says, persevere in discipline, he shows the sense of the authority already alleged: and first he shows the sense of the admonition; second he assigns the sense of the reason, at the place as to sons; third he shows that this reason is fitting, at the place for what son. But the Apostle's admonition had been that they ought not to neglect the discipline of the Lord, nor even grow weary. But he comprehends both in these words. For not to neglect, nor even to grow weary under discipline, is nothing other than to persevere in discipline. Hence Iob VI, 10: this be my comfort, that afflicting me with sorrow, he spare not. Ps. II, 12: take hold of discipline, etc. But why we ought not to neglect it, he had said, because whom the Lord loves, etc.; hence here he says, as to sons, God offers himself to you. As if to say: therefore persevere, because he offers himself as to sons. Ier. III, 19: thou shalt call me father, and shalt not cease to walk after me. Consequently he shows that this reason is fitting, saying, for what son is he whom the father does not reprove? For it pertains to a father to correct his son. Prov. XIII, 24: he who spares the rod hates his son: but he who loves him instructs him diligently. Ecclus. XXX, 8: an untamed horse turns out stubborn, and a son left to himself turns out reckless. And therefore correction is necessary: as a sting of the flesh was given to Paul, lest he should fall through pride, II Cor. XII, 7. Then, when he says, but if you are without discipline, etc., he argues from what has gone before: and first by leading to an absurdity; second from a certain example, at the place then, the fathers, etc.; third from the resulting benefit, at the place now all discipline, etc. Concerning the first he makes such a reasoning: all the saints who pleased God passed through many tribulations, through which they were made sons of God. Therefore he who does not persevere in discipline is not a son, but rather a bastard, that is, born of adultery. Of this reasoning he sets forth only the conclusion, saying: if you are without discipline, you are not sons, but bastards: because all, namely the saints, were made partakers of discipline. II Tim. III, v. 12: all who wish to live godly in Christ shall suffer persecution. Iudith VIII, 23: all who pleased God, the faithful, passed through many tribulations. Nor is it necessary that the saints always have exterior tribulations, since they are afflicted inwardly by the evil conduct of the perverse. II Petr. c. II, 8: Lot dwelling among them, who from day to day tormented the just soul with unjust deeds. But a son is properly so called who is from a legitimate father. Our mother is the Church, whose spouse is God himself. Os. II, 20: I will espouse thee to me in faith. But the adulterer is the Devil and the world. Therefore they who are born of the spirit of the Devil, or of the world, are children of adultery. Is. LVII, 3: draw near hither, sons of a diviner-woman, and of an adulterer, and of a harlot. It is clear therefore that properly none are sons, except those born of a legitimate father. Consequently, when he says, then, the fathers, etc., he sets forth the second reason, taken from that which we have experienced, namely from paternal correction. This reasoning indeed proceeds from a twofold difference, which is between God the Father and a carnal father. Now this is the first difference of God the Father to a carnal father. For man begets man as to the body, not as to the soul, which is through creation, and is not transmitted. II Mach. VII, 22: for neither did I give you spirit and soul. Hence he says that we have had the fathers of our flesh as instructors. Ecclus. VII, 25: hast thou sons? Instruct them. And we reverenced them. Ex. XX, v. 12: honor thy father and mother, etc. But God is our father in a more excellent way, namely as to the soul, which he creates immediately. Eccle., last chapter: the spirit return to God, who gave it. Likewise he justifies the soul, adopting us as sons. Rom. VIII, 16: the Spirit gives testimony to our spirit, that we are the sons of God. Therefore he says, shall we not much more obey the Father of spirits, that is, of our souls, which are called spirits because they are not from matter, and live? For the end of obedience is eternal life. Io. c. VIII, 52: if any man keep my word, he shall not taste death forever. Above, V, 9: he became to all who obey him the cause of eternal salvation. But the second difference is of human correction to the divine, which differ in two things: first as to the end, because the end of human correction is something transitory: for it is unto conducting oneself well in this life, which is of few days. Second as to the rule, because man corrects according to his own will, which can be deceived and err, and yet we obey him. But in divine correction it is not so: because he instructs us unto something useful forever, namely unto receiving sanctification, which is indeed God himself. Is. VIII, 13 s.: the Lord of hosts, him sanctify. Let him be your fear, let him be your dread, and he shall be unto you for a sanctification. And therefore he says, and they indeed instructed us for a time of few days, and this as to the first; and according to their own will, and this as to the second; but he, unto that which is profitable. Is. XLVIII, 17: I am the Lord, teaching thee profitable things. And this in receiving sanctification, that is, unto sanctification to be received from him; and therefore we ought the more to receive his discipline. There follows, now all discipline, etc. This is the third reason, which is taken from the usefulness of correction. But since punishments are a kind of medicine, the same judgment seems to hold concerning correction and concerning medicine. But as medicine in the taking is indeed bitter and abominable, yet its end is very sweet and desirable, so also is discipline, because it is grievous to bear but brings forth the best fruit. But it must be known that discipline is named from learning. But children, who are learning, are instructed by scourges. And therefore discipline is sometimes taken for knowledge, as at the beginning of the first of the Posterior Analytics: all teaching and all discipline, etc., which in Greek is called epistemon. But sometimes it is taken for correction, and in Greek is called paedia, but in Latin it does not have names so distinct. He says therefore that all discipline, namely which is instruction through scourges and troubles, in the present seems to be not of joy, but of grief, because outwardly it has sadness in the bearing, but inwardly it has sweetness from the intention of the end. And therefore he says seems, and does not say is. II Cor. VI, 10: as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing. Io. XVI, 21: a woman, when she is in labor, has sorrow, etc. II Cor. IV, v. 17: for that which in the present is momentary and light of our tribulation works in us, beyond measure, in sublimity, an eternal weight of glory. And therefore he says afterward, it yields fruit. For fruit implies sweetness; hence to enjoy is to be delighted in an end attained. Most peaceable. For fruit is had here with the disturbance of external inconveniences, and of interior temptations, and therefore it is not most peaceable, as it is there. In glory indeed there will be nothing inwardly gnawing at conscience, nor impelling to fault, nor outwardly saddening. For there, as Augustine says, there will be whatsoever you will: therefore that fruit is most peaceable. Peaceable indeed in tranquility of conscience, more peaceable in the receiving of the first robe, but most peaceable in the receiving of the second. Is. XXXII, 18: my people shall sit in the beauty of peace, in the tabernacles of confidence, in wealthy rest. Prov. III, 14: the first and purest fruits thereof. He will render therefore the fruit of justice, that is, which justice merits. For to him that sows justice is a faithful reward, Prov. XI, 18; likewise: the fruit of the just is a tree of life. Or of justice, unto justice to be apprehended. Os. X, 12: sow for yourselves justice in truth, and reap in the mouth of mercy. Ps. CXXV, 7: going they went and wept, etc. But fruit is not rendered, except to those exercised by it, that is, by discipline. Above, V, 14: solid food is for the perfect, those who by custom have their senses exercised.”

“Furthermore, we have had fathers of our flesh,.... Earthly parents; who are so called, because they are the immediate causes and instruments of the generation of their children, and of their fleshly bodies and worldly beings; and to distinguish them from the Father of spirits: and this shows, that they have not the spirit or soul from them, only the flesh or body, and which is frail and corrupt; and therefore goes by this name. Which corrected us; early, and at proper seasons, in love, and for instruction, and to prevent ruin, and death: and we gave them reverence; by submitting to their correction, and hearkening to it; by taking shame to themselves, and acknowledging the offence committed; by retaining the same affection for them; and, by a carefulness not to offend for the future. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? that is, to God, who is so called; not because he is the Creator of angels, who are spirits; but because he is the Creator of the souls of men; the soul is the more noble and excellent part of man: it bears a resemblance to God; it is, the life of man, and is immortal; it is exceeding precious, and the redemption of it; this was at first immediately created by God; and he still continues to create souls, which he preserves in their being, and has the power of saving and destroying them. Besides, God may be so called, because he is the author and donor of all spiritual gifts, and particularly of regenerating grace; it is he who renews a right spirit in them, and puts a new spirit into them: now such ought to be in "subjection" to him; not only as creatures to a Creator, and as subjects to their prince: but as children to a father, and particularly to him, as and when correcting; they should bow to his sovereignty, resign to his will, be humble under his mighty hand, be still and quiet, and bear all patiently; the advantage arising from such a subjection is life: "and live"; or "that ye may live"; or "and ye shall live": more comfortably, and more to the glory of God, in communion and fellowship with him here, and in heaven to all eternity.”

“We have had fathers of our flesh - The fathers of our flesh, i.e. our natural parents, were correctors; and we reverenced them, notwithstanding their corrections often arose from whim or caprice: but shall we not rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits; to him from whom we have received both body and soul; who is our Creator, Preserver, and Supporter; to whom both we and our parents owe our life and our blessings; and who corrects us only for our profit; that we may live and be partakers of his holiness? The apostle in asking, Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? alludes to the punishment of the stubborn and rebellious son, Deu 21:18-21 : "If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, who will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them; then shall his father and mother lay hold on him and bring him to the elders of the city, and they shall say, This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice: and all the men of the city shall stone him with stones that he Die." Had he been subject to his earthly parents, he would have lived; because not subject, he dies. If we be subject to our heavenly Father, we shall Live, and be partakers of his holiness; if not, we shall Die, and be treated as bastards and not sons. This is the sum of the apostle's meaning; and the fact and the law to which he alludes.”

“fathers . . . which corrected us--rather as Greek, "We had the fathers of our flesh as correctors." subjection--See the punishment of insubordination, Deu 21:18. Father of spirits--contrasted with "the fathers of our flesh." "Generation by men is carnal, by God is spiritual" [BENGEL]. As "Father of spirits," He is both the Originator, and the Providential and Gracious Sustainer, at once of animal and spiritual life. Compare "and LIVE," namely, spiritually; also Heb 12:10, "that we might be partakers of His holiness" (Pe2 1:4). God is a spirit Himself, and the Creator of spirits like Himself, in contrast to men who are flesh, and the progenitors of flesh (Joh 3:6). Jesus our pattern "learned obedience" experimentally by suffering (Heb 5:8). and live--and so, thereby live spiritually and eternally.”